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Kavin Alavandar Extropy Dianoetics	Posted - 2011.06.25 03:49:00 - [1] Originally by: Tichu Tilyon We all know now why we got this slap in the face devblog http://www.evenews24.com/2011/06/25/ccp-hilmar-global-email-shows-the-reasoning-behind-ccp-zulu-devblog/ My liking of Hilmar tripled, if that's real. Wiser words were never written by the CEO of an MMO developer. _______________________________________________ æA planet is the cradle of mind, but one cannot live in a cradle forever.Æ ùKonstantin Tsiolkovsky
Kavin Alavandar Extropy Dianoetics	Posted - 2011.06.25 04:20:00 - [2] Originally by: boeboe joe Don't know if I'm the first to say this but here it goes, thank you CCP Zulu. I also want to give a much needed and overdue thanks to CCP Pann and CCP Fallout for being on the frontlines of this whole thing and dealing with/tanking the trolls. I really do have a better understanding of what the company newsletter was all about. If I did understand it correctly it's more of a brainstorm on big ideas currently in the industry, for employees to go back and forth to develop those ideas that could be used to enhance EVE/CCP. "The opinions and views expressed in Fearless are just that; opinions and views. They are not CCP policy nor are they a reliable source of CCP views as a company. The employees who submitted articles to that newsletter did exactly what they were asked to do, write about theories and opinions from an exaggerated stand."-Zulu As far as the NEX market goes, personally I won't be paying (I lol's at my puns) any attention to those things unless, someone happens to put one of those on market for less than 10 mil isk, that would probably be my limit. Therefore, "NEX market combat group of vanity items completely miss boeboe joe, doing 0.0 damage to his wallet, yay!" A good feature to have on the NEX market too would be to display the original price beside those item(s) on sale, like 900 AUR then 1,200 AUR in strikethrough. But I digress, that is a another topic for another thread. Again I cannot thank you all enough for explaining this in further detail, and from mature players everywhere I would like to say I'm sorry for the crap you all have had to deal with. Now go make us some moar CQ's! Thank you, Boeboe Joe, for maintaining the sanity I expect of EVE players on average. These fora have been awash with ignorant, childish garbage over this matter. I'd begun to think that I'd only deluded myself until now that EVE players are generally intelligent, but perhaps the general population simply isn't what's vocal right now. _______________________________________________ æA planet is the cradle of mind, but one cannot live in a cradle forever.Æ ùKonstantin Tsiolkovsky
Kavin Alavandar Extropy Dianoetics	Posted - 2011.06.25 04:34:00 - [3] Originally by: Mi Sing The "Dev Blog" was nothing but a slap in the face to your CUSTOMERS. Who have never more blatantly shown that they desperately require it. _______________________________________________ æA planet is the cradle of mind, but one cannot live in a cradle forever.Æ ùKonstantin Tsiolkovsky
Kavin Alavandar Extropy Dianoetics	Posted - 2011.06.25 04:55:00 - [4] Edited by: Kavin Alavandar on 25/06/2011 04:55:57 Originally by: Rashmika Sky [snip] Thanks for that, Rashmika. That's the kind of criticism that my posts are not directed at. I don't like the prices, either, but the *** fight that has ensued only makes CCP look an order of magnitude saner. Edit:** F e c e s is censored? Amazing. _______________________________________________ æA planet is the cradle of mind, but one cannot live in a cradle forever.Æ ùKonstantin Tsiolkovsky
Kavin Alavandar Extropy Dianoetics	Posted - 2011.06.25 05:02:00 - [5] Accusations of being arrogant, smug, or out of touch are quite rich in the context of the posts in which they appear. _______________________________________________ æA planet is the cradle of mind, but one cannot live in a cradle forever.Æ ùKonstantin Tsiolkovsky
Kavin Alavandar Extropy Dianoetics	Posted - 2011.06.25 06:56:00 - [6] Originally by: Astralglide I do think that CCP nailed it on the head in their original leaked email Originally by: Hilmar Petursson Currently we are seeing _very predictable feedback_ on what we are doing. Having the perspective of having done this for a decade, I can tell you that this is one of the moments where we look at what our players do and less of what they say. Innovation takes time to set in and the predictable reaction is always to resist change. If the players make use of the shop, then CCP is going to keep doing it. Seriously, how many people are they really going to lose? (And remember, nobody thinks as highly of your monthly contributions as you do) If they lose 1% of their players but have 20% use the shop, they make out in spades. Precisely. I'm glad to see someone thinking. _______________________________________________ æI can tell you that this is one of the moments where we look at what our players do and less of what they say.Æ ù Hilmar Petursson
Kavin Alavandar Extropy Dianoetics	Posted - 2011.06.25 07:10:00 - [7] Edited by: Kavin Alavandar on 25/06/2011 07:13:50 Originally by: Olivor This devblog is utterly insulting to any player. To miss the point so spectacularly, to offer no apologies for this god awful mess and make parallels between some graphics in a game and real life clothing is disgusting. How are so many people missing the point of this analogy so completely? _______________________________________________ æI can tell you that this is one of the moments where we look at what our players do and less of what they say.Æ ù Hilmar Petursson
Kavin Alavandar Extropy Dianoetics	Posted - 2011.06.25 07:17:00 - [8] Edited by: Kavin Alavandar on 25/06/2011 07:18:46 Originally by: PsyBlade how ****ing far from reality are you that you cannot and are going to refuse to listen to your customer base saying this is the moment to be proud? It's referencing you, basically. _______________________________________________ æI can tell you that this is one of the moments where we look at what our players do and less of what they say.Æ ù Hilmar Petursson
Kavin Alavandar Extropy Dianoetics	Posted - 2011.06.25 07:22:00 - [9] Edited by: Kavin Alavandar on 25/06/2011 07:26:17 Originally by: Desigre Walk with your wallet, becouse game company dosent listen to voice of reason, but are in love with theyr own grand vision... That's what game design is. Design what you want and hope it works. That's the passion. It's not for you. It's for the game. Designing something not because you believe in it, but because some backseat designers think they know better, is quite a bizarre thing to expect. æVoice of reasonÆ indeed. Have read this thread? Good grief. Telling CCP what you like and don't (and why), and indeed, walking with your wallet, is one thing, but the bulk of the feedback is just asinine. _______________________________________________ æI can tell you that this is one of the moments where we look at what our players do and less of what they say.Æ ù Hilmar Petursson
Kavin Alavandar Extropy Dianoetics	Posted - 2011.06.25 07:45:00 - [10] Originally by: Khandara Seraphim We went from the most amazing, unique experience in the history of gaming to a laggy, glitchy, bug-ridden mess... and now they're planning to give a leg up to whoever pays them the most. How did we get here? How? I dreamed a dream that was Eve. And now that dream is dead. With the time-based skill-training, how hasn't it always been that way? _______________________________________________ æI can tell you that this is one of the moments where we look at what our players do and less of what they say.Æ ù Hilmar Petursson

Kavin Alavandar Extropy Dianoetics	Posted - 2011.06.25 07:54:00 - [11] Edited by: Kavin Alavandar on 25/06/2011 07:54:46 Originally by: Van Flegg Unsubbed. It's clear by that e-mail certain bigwigs in CCP aren't even bothering to listen to us. The only thing Hilmar is intrested in is increase/decrease in revenue. Money is the only voice he hears in terms of wether something is a success or failure in Eve. Player out-cry doesn't matter - after all, we always protest change, right? Well, no kidding revenue is the best measure. Why should it matter to them if they're getting an infinitesimal part of it from someone other than yourself? Some people have an awfully high opinion of their subscriptions. _______________________________________________ æI can tell you that this is one of the moments where we look at what our players do and less of what they say.Æ ù Hilmar Petursson
Kavin Alavandar Extropy Dianoetics	Posted - 2011.06.25 08:01:00 - [12] Edited by: Kavin Alavandar on 25/06/2011 08:05:32 Originally by: Ais Hellia Edited by: Ais Hellia on 25/06/2011 07:58:18 Originally by: Jim Lovell you have this game ONLY because of them and they have this game ONLY because of us Because they have customers, but there's no special reason those customers have to include you. EVE is CCP's project, their vision. You/we just happen to have liked it. It really gets my goat when players of any game act like the developers are their employees. _______________________________________________ æI can tell you that this is one of the moments where we look at what our players do and less of what they say.Æ ù Hilmar Petursson

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